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What is a conversation?

August 20, 2009 Nikos Anagnostou Comments off

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Maybe the reason why Twitter succeeds is because people don’t really want to have conversations. They just want to be able to scream out into the void and listen for echoes.

says Victor Ganata.

If true, then all web 2.0 product developers should go back to the design desk.

The real underlying question though is: “What is a conversation?”

Web 2.0 is about conversations. The markets are conversations, says the Cluetrain Manifesto. New services want to be conversational. New marketing urges us to form relationships and interact through conversations.

With so many claims  on the term ‘conversation’, I am afraid the term is stretched to a point where it will either break or become meaningless.  Defining  is confining.

If we accept that ‘conversation’ is a more serious kind of discussion (as opposed to chat), we can hardly apply this notion to  the conversations happening online. Most of them are simply chat.

Next comes the shouting in the void, like the tweets  ’I woke up and I am drinking coffee’ which occassionaly turn into a chat again.

In blogs, we often see  large threads of hundreds of comments, which, excluding spam and trolls, can be deemed as real conversations but not as one conversation. They are mostly conversations between the blogger and the commenters and secondly between the commenters themselves.

The pingback mechanism has  enabled a more sophisticated kind of conversations:  through blog posts. These can be extensive and spread to too many blogs, so they are difficult to follow.

In Friendfeed,  humongous threads are commonplace, especially if Robert Scoble is the initiator.  Yet, I don’t know many that  read such threads from start to end. So, what is the point of these threads, conversation wise (because I can think of many other points apart from conversation)?

In real life, you can have a conversation with only a few people. You cannot have a conversation with a whole football stadium!  Likewise, online conversations that can have an impact, and feel like they do,  are the ones  that people can participate from start to end, understand who else is participating, and catch up really quickly, if  joining late.

For this reason (and contrary to the popular perception)  twitter and twitter-like tools, by restricting the length of the what is being said and by limiting the participants of the conversation,  turn out to be more conversational (subject to abuse though).

When  people complain about twitter not being conversational, they may actually complain not been allowed  to blah blah endlessly.   But we agreed that this isn’t a conversation, didn’t we?

Facebook Feeds

August 17, 2009 Nikos Anagnostou 4 comments

I added a Lifestreaming plugin to my blog recently and as I was entering the feed urls of the various Web 2.0 sites I am participating, I stumbled upon the Facebook problem.
Since its last change, the old mini-feed feed has disappeared, so one has to reassemble it by its components.
I was particularly interested in the Noted Feed, the Links feed and the Status feed.

Why?

Well, the notes is the facebook blogging.

Notes
Although I rarely use it, it can occassionaly contain some thoughts that are posted nowhere else.


By clicking to the notes tab in your profile (hoping you have added the tab to your profile), you get on the right side a column which, at the lower part has the notes feed. Like this:

The structure of the url is as follows:
http://www.facebook.com/feeds/notes.php?id=<yourid>&viewer=<yourid>&key=<yourkey>&format=rss20

Links

The Links feed is essentialy the feed of all the sharing activity in facebook, so it is a must to include in a lifestream. Working as with notes we can find it at a similar place.
The structure of the url is as follows:
http://apps.facebook.com/feeds/share_posts.php?id=<yourid>&viewer=<yourid>&key=<yourkey>&format=rss20

Status
Last, the Status feed is the most important one, especially if no cross posting is taking place on your Facebook Wall, as it comprises of all the original thoughts and situations you share in Facebook.
But where is this feed located?
As much I have searched I could not find it.

So after discussing this in twitter, from the responses I realized that the structure of the statuses feed url must be the same with other two feed.

First guess: replace notes.php with status.php and … voila, it works!
http://www.facebook.com/feeds/status.php?id=<yourid>&viewer=<yourid>&key=<yourkey>&format=rss20

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Tethering through a Nokia N95 phone

August 17, 2009 Nikos Anagnostou 1 comment

I am ‘locked’ up today in my mother’s house, which, quite unsurprisingly, does not have internet access.  One option is to steal my way to the net through a neighbors’ open wifi. Not without some odd problems though: I can open my Gmail in https, send and receive mail as normal, I can browse pages in https (where supported), I can use a twitter desktop client, I can use twitter through (you guessed) https, but every other simple web page request through http fails!

But problems can make one creative! Having encountered the same situation before, this time I came prepared. I had preset my MacBook Air and N95 for tethering and I could surf the web with no restrictions. Well, almost, as  my data plan  isn’t for heavy use  (it’s just a quarter of a Gb per month) .

How ?

You’ll need a USB cable.
Connect Phone to Mac and select PC Suite on the phone.
Make setting as the pictures below

One can achieve the same without a  USB cable (through Bluetooth) but I did not try it, as bluetooth drains phone batter all to quickly.

The above settings are specific for my provider, but you can get an idea how it would work with yours. A tip: do not confuse the APN (Access point name, with the connection name on your phone). Open your connection (the one you use to connect to the internet) and see the APN name there.
Leave a comment if you have tried this on a different provider.

 

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