Comments on: Crowdsourcing blogposts http://webtropic.cc/2008/08/04/crowdsourcing-blogposts/ Musings on social media, web technologies and start-ups. Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:21:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Maurice Bussman http://webtropic.cc/2008/08/04/crowdsourcing-blogposts/#comment-533 Maurice Bussman Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:41:10 +0000 http://webtropic.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-533 Tremendous post you have scored here! The web is overflowing of horrid writing and I was grabbed by your limpidity. Your closings are exact and I will straightaway subscribe to your rss feed to remain up to date with your up future day postings. Yes! I admit it, your authorship style is special and I will work harder on mine. Tremendous post you have scored here! The web is overflowing of horrid writing and I was grabbed by your limpidity. Your closings are exact and I will straightaway subscribe to your rss feed to remain up to date with your up future day postings. Yes! I admit it, your authorship style is special and I will work harder on mine.

]]> By: Nikos Anagnostou http://webtropic.cc/2008/08/04/crowdsourcing-blogposts/#comment-117 Nikos Anagnostou Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:18:41 +0000 http://webtropic.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-117 @ Σπύρος Ντόβας As I said in the post, for this particular one, we share only the glory :) @ Σπύρος Ντόβας As I said in the post, for this particular one, we share only the glory :)

]]> By: Σπύρος Ντόβας http://webtropic.cc/2008/08/04/crowdsourcing-blogposts/#comment-116 Σπύρος Ντόβας Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:51:32 +0000 http://webtropic.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-116 Well, when should I expect the check? :-) Well, when should I expect the check? :-)

]]> By: Nikos Anagnostou http://webtropic.cc/2008/08/04/crowdsourcing-blogposts/#comment-114 Nikos Anagnostou Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:20:13 +0000 http://webtropic.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-114 @Σπύρος Ντόβας Who is going to sign the piece, eh? Well all. The same practice can be found in music remix in ccMixter. If the list is too long, a link would suffice. The interesting part is who bears the legal rights and implications: since this is a paid work, copyright goes to the publisher. And since this is approved by an editorial team, responsibility goes to the editor. Good points Spyros! @Σπύρος Ντόβας Who is going to sign the piece, eh? Well all. The same practice can be found in music remix in ccMixter. If the list is too long, a link would suffice.
The interesting part is who bears the legal rights and implications: since this is a paid work, copyright goes to the publisher. And since this is approved by an editorial team, responsibility goes to the editor.
Good points Spyros!

]]> By: Σπύρος Ντόβας http://webtropic.cc/2008/08/04/crowdsourcing-blogposts/#comment-111 Σπύρος Ντόβας Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:03:48 +0000 http://webtropic.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-111 Nikos, as I imagine it, weighing should be applied to the metrics that will be used to calculate the compensation, so that it moderates the income of the first poster. If you compensate according to the number of words or by the number of arguements that will exist in the final post, it is obvious that the first contributor will get a lion's share which will lead to everyone proposing new posts. You may avoid that by saying that the rule applies to the first contributor multiplied by a factor, say, 0.3, or that the first contributor gets a fixed percentage, say 25% of the money that will be given out as compensation. Another interesting issue is who is going to sign the piece when it gets out. Will each idea or arguement be attributed to the respective contributor (which is apparently technically challenging operationally demanding) or the "glory" goes to the organization that pays (which is in fact the dominant model in the traditional economy)? Nikos, as I imagine it, weighing should be applied to the metrics that will be used to calculate the compensation, so that it moderates the income of the first poster.

If you compensate according to the number of words or by the number of arguements that will exist in the final post, it is obvious that the first contributor will get a lion’s share which will lead to everyone proposing new posts.

You may avoid that by saying that the rule applies to the first contributor multiplied by a factor, say, 0.3, or that the first contributor gets a fixed percentage, say 25% of the money that will be given out as compensation.

Another interesting issue is who is going to sign the piece when it gets out. Will each idea or arguement be attributed to the respective contributor (which is apparently technically challenging operationally demanding) or the “glory” goes to the organization that pays (which is in fact the dominant model in the traditional economy)?

]]> By: Nikos Anagnostou http://webtropic.cc/2008/08/04/crowdsourcing-blogposts/#comment-110 Nikos Anagnostou Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:03:50 +0000 http://webtropic.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-110 @JohnFeeney Thanks for taking the pain to leave such a lengthy comment. You say: "Not a novel idea, numerous sites offer this golden ring opportunity. " Could you please name a couple? This is not doupt, just curiosity. Hardly any idea is really novel after all. "The main goal is attracting an audience/readership" How should I interpret this? As a should or as the main goal of efforts to attract new talents? "Why is this post featured?" Same question here. I'd very much want to know the algorithm wordpress uses. "Crowdsourcing? or potential source generator." this i don't understand at all. @JohnFeeney Thanks for taking the pain to leave such a lengthy comment.

You say: “Not a novel idea, numerous sites offer this golden ring opportunity. ” Could you please name a couple? This is not doupt, just curiosity. Hardly any idea is really novel after all.

“The main goal is attracting an audience/readership” How should I interpret this? As a should or as the main goal of efforts to attract new talents?

“Why is this post featured?” Same question here. I’d very much want to know the algorithm wordpress uses.

“Crowdsourcing? or potential source generator.” this i don’t understand at all.

]]> By: John Feeney http://webtropic.cc/2008/08/04/crowdsourcing-blogposts/#comment-109 John Feeney Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:39:58 +0000 http://webtropic.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-109 Keyword triggering response or comments: compensation Not a novel idea, numerous sites offer this golden ring opportunity. Uncovering a missing talent putting them on the path from blogger to writer to columnist. That in itself can cause a stir amongst current 'paid' columnist. The main goal is attracting an audience/readership or more important those that click through on sponsor ads. So the author has to go through an identity trial. Finding active content, than be able to express his/her opinion that in turn retains a visitor (by subscription or feed) an perhaps generate commentary which helps validate readership. My question is directed at the subject. Most of the time, posting comments let's me limit my words and condense the thought. Dependent upon the position of said content, I may or may not be able to add value. The purpose of blogs creating a simple tool for those to express their "opinions", right or wrong has nothing to do with it. Take notice of posts that gain popularity through vehicles like wordpress, what generates one over the other? Why is Arsenal football more important than Apples attempt to Stream video of the olympics? Why is a recap of a TV show more popular than Chicago's bid to host (2016) olympics considering their 3rd behind London (2012) and Beijing for a surveillance infrastructure. Why is this post featured? Crowdsourcing? or potential source generator. Keyword triggering response or comments: compensation

Not a novel idea, numerous sites offer this golden ring opportunity. Uncovering a missing talent putting them on the path from blogger to writer to columnist. That in itself can cause a stir amongst current ‘paid’ columnist.

The main goal is attracting an audience/readership or more important those that click through on sponsor ads. So the author has to go through an identity trial. Finding active content, than be able to express his/her opinion that in turn retains a visitor (by subscription or feed) an perhaps generate commentary which helps validate readership.

My question is directed at the subject. Most of the time, posting comments let’s me limit my words and condense the thought. Dependent upon the position of said content, I may or may not be able to add value. The purpose of blogs creating a simple tool for those to express their “opinions”, right or wrong has nothing to do with it.

Take notice of posts that gain popularity through vehicles like wordpress, what generates one over the other? Why is Arsenal football more important than Apples attempt to Stream video of the olympics? Why is a recap of a TV show more popular than Chicago’s bid to host (2016) olympics considering their 3rd behind London (2012) and Beijing for a surveillance infrastructure. Why is this post featured?

Crowdsourcing? or potential source generator.

]]> By: Nikos Anagnostou http://webtropic.cc/2008/08/04/crowdsourcing-blogposts/#comment-108 Nikos Anagnostou Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:29:34 +0000 http://webtropic.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-108 @Σπύρος Ντόβας I hear you regarding the facilitator being a member of the editorial team so not to game the system, but this runs contrary to a main assumption: that the blogpost ideas are also contributed. The way you put it, ideas are generated by the editorial team and elaborated by the contributors. It can work but won't generated new bright posts. I am not sure I understand what sort of weighing can be applied and to what. Please explain. @Σπύρος Ντόβας I hear you regarding the facilitator being a member of the editorial team so not to game the system, but this runs contrary to a main assumption: that the blogpost ideas are also contributed. The way you put it, ideas are generated by the editorial team and elaborated by the contributors. It can work but won’t generated new bright posts.

I am not sure I understand what sort of weighing can be applied and to what. Please explain.

]]> By: Σπύρος Ντόβας http://webtropic.cc/2008/08/04/crowdsourcing-blogposts/#comment-106 Σπύρος Ντόβας Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:43:10 +0000 http://webtropic.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-106 Intuitively I would say that the post facilitator should be a member of the editorial team and not a paid contributor. Otherwise, authors, in order to maximize their economic benefit and also get a lion's share in recognition from a successful post, would rather tend to create new posts instead of contributing to posts that others have created. On the other hand, if somekind of a weighing factor is set to moderate the benefits for the facilitator, the system may become stable. However, this point of stability can not be derived analytically and has to be found through a trial-and-error process. And I am not sure how many errors such a novel idea can withstand before it dies... Intuitively I would say that the post facilitator should be a member of the editorial team and not a paid contributor. Otherwise, authors, in order to maximize their economic benefit and also get a lion’s share in recognition from a successful post, would rather tend to create new posts instead of contributing to posts that others have created.

On the other hand, if somekind of a weighing factor is set to moderate the benefits for the facilitator, the system may become stable. However, this point of stability can not be derived analytically and has to be found through a trial-and-error process. And I am not sure how many errors such a novel idea can withstand before it dies…

]]> By: Nikos Anagnostou http://webtropic.cc/2008/08/04/crowdsourcing-blogposts/#comment-105 Nikos Anagnostou Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:38:01 +0000 http://webtropic.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-105 @johnrobert Thanks John. I have no specific plan yet, but If I get a couple more comments similar to yours , I guess I will develop one :) @johnrobert Thanks John. I have no specific plan yet, but If I get a couple more comments similar to yours , I guess I will develop one :)

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